"Donald Trump: Republican Presidential Candidate Suggests Boycott of Starbucks Over Holiday Cups"
I refuse to accept this headline unless it begins with, "In a perfect storm of stupid"
They're still RED, for Pete's sake. Like Rudolph's nose. Muthafuckers could be PURPLE, is all I'm sayin'.
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Tuesday, November 10, 2015
Monday, November 09, 2015
Hoo boy.
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/starbucks--plain-red-holiday-cups-causing-uutrage-among-christians-174214942.html
Okay, this has gone far enough. EVERYONE IS WRONG IN THIS DEBATE. EVERYONE. Capslock and italics levels of wrong. Can we please just have common sense back? The sweet, sweet valley of sanity? Also, wtf is "uutrage?" Is that like, uber outrage?
So two things. This post is not about religion. I have my beliefs, most everyone has or specifically doesn't have beliefs (even agnosticism is a belief in, idk, "meh?"), and that's between you, God, your family, and your church if you go to one. It's not a matter of public debate.
Also, the context in which I first viewed that dumb viral video, because you must be either dumb or a cat to go viral, is a weirdly personal one. So I'm gonna get this out of the way so it won't color the rest of my thoughts. I recently found out that the person I dated before I met my husband got married. Let me say with absolutely no irony how happy I was to see this. I ended the relationship, I felt bad about it, and seeing him happy was almost a relief. Then, out of natural curiosity, I read his wife's facebook page. (Hey, it's the times we live in. I'm not above sating my curiosity.) He and I were together for five years, so this is someone I knew really well. Long story short, the absolute last kind of person I would have expected he'd marry is someone who posts dumb "war on Christmas" videos. Unironically. And Donald Trump quotes, and agreeing with "Obama is a Muslim!" fearmongering propaganda. Whether you like, hate, or are somewhere in between on Obama, like I am, that kind of beside-the-point blustering inanity has no place in serious discourse. It's a distraction from real issues, as most manufactured controversies are.
So this man, we'll call him Steve because his name is not actually Steve, is way more cynical than even I am. He would laugh that kind of shit right out of town. He's an atheist, for pete's sake. I'm no atheist, but I don't use my belief in God for great stupid. And this isn't even about politics or religion to me. If you're religious, non-religious, conservative, liberal, somewhere in between, it's all fine. JUST BE SMART ABOUT IT AND STAY YOUR COURSE. Don't take the bait from the absolute basest side of your cause. This is about willful ignorance. It's about the lowest common denominator, and fearmongering, and divisiveness. So to say I was shocked when I saw all that stuff is a bit of an understatement. But hey, it has nothing to do with me. If he's happy, then right on. I just hope he doesn't let that bullshit slide, because an intelligent person letting that kind of (non)thinking ferment in their own home is frightening to me.
So that's my personal experience with this dumb video, and now that that's out of my system--
Look, I'm one of the people who's on the side of preserving Christmas traditions. I've posted about it before, I'm very much pro-Christmas, pro-Halloween, all the wonderful fun things I grew up with that today's children should not be denied. And here's why this post isn't about religion. ALL OF THE CHRISTMAS TRADITIONS THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED ARE SECULAR ONES!!! Starbucks has never put crosses on their Christmas cups. School Christmas parties weren't religious when I was a kid, let alone now. The only publicly religious thing I remember growing up is Christmas pageants about the birth of Jesus. While nice, I completely understand and respect why that belongs in a church, and not public schools.
But why do we have to lose the rest of it? The word "Christ" is in Christmas, okay, but most of the traditions, outside of churches, are completely secular. So on that side, it seems what's causing the offense is the first syllable of the word "Christmas." And the need to be offended about something. Because unless someone is pushing their actual religion into your face, there's nothing offensive about pine trees and reindeer, and there sure as hell isn't anything religious about it. So those people - I don't wish to use the phrase "politically correct" anymore since it's lost all meaning - but the people who want to deny secular Christmas celebrations to kids (and adults, but kids missing out on that magic is what bothers me most) because of a syllable and a bull-headed minority, are wrong.
But now we have this video guy and his cup, and based on his level of thought processes I'm surprised as hell he didn't call it #cupgate, trying to tell us that snowflakes and pine trees are Christian, and removing them is anti-Christian. NO. YOU'RE ALL WRONG. If Starbucks did remove trees and snowflakes to not "offend" anyone, then they are wrong, because these things occur in nature and are not religious. (Or maybe they're just trying to make them look like red solo cups. Maybe it's a tribute to Toby Keith. DID YOU EVER THINK OF THAT??) But equating these secular things to religion, which doesn't belong in the public arena, is just doing more harm to those of us who want to preserve Christmas traditions. Who want today's kids to grow up with the same wonder and innocence we did, and not all this damn overanalyzing everything. Please stop being wrong, everyone. You're hurting my brain.
We live in a time of 24/7 manufactured controversies. The loser is common sense, and you, and me, and all of us. Maybe be mad at Starbucks over charging $6 for a cup of coffee, rather than how they design their cups. Also, red is at least half of the traditional Christmas colors and therefore, by cup guy standards, at least half Christian. Man, if I celebrated a holiday that didn't include red as a traditional color, I'd be offended as fuck. Or... not. I'd just go get a $2 cup of coffee at Tim Horton's and feel very smug about it.
Okay, this has gone far enough. EVERYONE IS WRONG IN THIS DEBATE. EVERYONE. Capslock and italics levels of wrong. Can we please just have common sense back? The sweet, sweet valley of sanity? Also, wtf is "uutrage?" Is that like, uber outrage?
So two things. This post is not about religion. I have my beliefs, most everyone has or specifically doesn't have beliefs (even agnosticism is a belief in, idk, "meh?"), and that's between you, God, your family, and your church if you go to one. It's not a matter of public debate.
Also, the context in which I first viewed that dumb viral video, because you must be either dumb or a cat to go viral, is a weirdly personal one. So I'm gonna get this out of the way so it won't color the rest of my thoughts. I recently found out that the person I dated before I met my husband got married. Let me say with absolutely no irony how happy I was to see this. I ended the relationship, I felt bad about it, and seeing him happy was almost a relief. Then, out of natural curiosity, I read his wife's facebook page. (Hey, it's the times we live in. I'm not above sating my curiosity.) He and I were together for five years, so this is someone I knew really well. Long story short, the absolute last kind of person I would have expected he'd marry is someone who posts dumb "war on Christmas" videos. Unironically. And Donald Trump quotes, and agreeing with "Obama is a Muslim!" fearmongering propaganda. Whether you like, hate, or are somewhere in between on Obama, like I am, that kind of beside-the-point blustering inanity has no place in serious discourse. It's a distraction from real issues, as most manufactured controversies are.
So this man, we'll call him Steve because his name is not actually Steve, is way more cynical than even I am. He would laugh that kind of shit right out of town. He's an atheist, for pete's sake. I'm no atheist, but I don't use my belief in God for great stupid. And this isn't even about politics or religion to me. If you're religious, non-religious, conservative, liberal, somewhere in between, it's all fine. JUST BE SMART ABOUT IT AND STAY YOUR COURSE. Don't take the bait from the absolute basest side of your cause. This is about willful ignorance. It's about the lowest common denominator, and fearmongering, and divisiveness. So to say I was shocked when I saw all that stuff is a bit of an understatement. But hey, it has nothing to do with me. If he's happy, then right on. I just hope he doesn't let that bullshit slide, because an intelligent person letting that kind of (non)thinking ferment in their own home is frightening to me.
So that's my personal experience with this dumb video, and now that that's out of my system--
Look, I'm one of the people who's on the side of preserving Christmas traditions. I've posted about it before, I'm very much pro-Christmas, pro-Halloween, all the wonderful fun things I grew up with that today's children should not be denied. And here's why this post isn't about religion. ALL OF THE CHRISTMAS TRADITIONS THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED ARE SECULAR ONES!!! Starbucks has never put crosses on their Christmas cups. School Christmas parties weren't religious when I was a kid, let alone now. The only publicly religious thing I remember growing up is Christmas pageants about the birth of Jesus. While nice, I completely understand and respect why that belongs in a church, and not public schools.
But why do we have to lose the rest of it? The word "Christ" is in Christmas, okay, but most of the traditions, outside of churches, are completely secular. So on that side, it seems what's causing the offense is the first syllable of the word "Christmas." And the need to be offended about something. Because unless someone is pushing their actual religion into your face, there's nothing offensive about pine trees and reindeer, and there sure as hell isn't anything religious about it. So those people - I don't wish to use the phrase "politically correct" anymore since it's lost all meaning - but the people who want to deny secular Christmas celebrations to kids (and adults, but kids missing out on that magic is what bothers me most) because of a syllable and a bull-headed minority, are wrong.
But now we have this video guy and his cup, and based on his level of thought processes I'm surprised as hell he didn't call it #cupgate, trying to tell us that snowflakes and pine trees are Christian, and removing them is anti-Christian. NO. YOU'RE ALL WRONG. If Starbucks did remove trees and snowflakes to not "offend" anyone, then they are wrong, because these things occur in nature and are not religious. (Or maybe they're just trying to make them look like red solo cups. Maybe it's a tribute to Toby Keith. DID YOU EVER THINK OF THAT??) But equating these secular things to religion, which doesn't belong in the public arena, is just doing more harm to those of us who want to preserve Christmas traditions. Who want today's kids to grow up with the same wonder and innocence we did, and not all this damn overanalyzing everything. Please stop being wrong, everyone. You're hurting my brain.
We live in a time of 24/7 manufactured controversies. The loser is common sense, and you, and me, and all of us. Maybe be mad at Starbucks over charging $6 for a cup of coffee, rather than how they design their cups. Also, red is at least half of the traditional Christmas colors and therefore, by cup guy standards, at least half Christian. Man, if I celebrated a holiday that didn't include red as a traditional color, I'd be offended as fuck. Or... not. I'd just go get a $2 cup of coffee at Tim Horton's and feel very smug about it.
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